Leadership & culture in healthcare

Innovation, hope and leadership with Tony Young

Episode Summary

Tony Young, a surgeon, NHS innovation leader, academic, and business director, about how he balances multiple senior roles. Tony explains that his career in healthcare innovation was shaped by early entrepreneurial success and failure, including founding and exiting four companies and learning hard lessons after nearly losing his home. Rather than time management, Tony credits self-awareness, coaching, and values alignment for his effectiveness. Coaching helped him understand how his mind works as a leader and how hidden assumptions shape behaviour. He argues that when leaders align their work with core values—such as fairness, creativity, community, and learning—they gain energy, clarity, and resilience.

Episode Notes

Matthew Winn in conversation with Tony Young

Matthew Winn interviews Tony Young, a clinician and national leader in healthcare innovation, about his career, leadership mindset, and how he manages multiple senior roles across healthcare, academia, and business.

Tony explains that he is a consultant urological surgeon at Southend Hospital, Associate Medical Director for Innovation and Transformation, National Clinical Director for Innovation at NHS England, and Chair of Innovation and Entrepreneurship at Anglia Ruskin University. He is also a non-executive director of an investment trust to better understand how finance, governance, and investment work outside the NHS.

Early in his career, Tony founded four companies as a junior doctor, raising £5 million and exiting each business. This entrepreneurial journey was not smooth—he nearly lost his home—but it gave him invaluable insights into risk, failure, and innovation. These experiences shaped his belief that healthcare must learn from business, and that systems change happens when clinicians engage with entrepreneurship and leadership beyond medicine.

Matthew challenges Tony on how he balances so many senior roles. Tony explains that the answer lies not in time management but in self-knowledge. His leadership transformation came through executive coaching, arranged by his former NHS England director, Ian Dodge, and particularly through coaching with Dame Una O’Brien, former Permanent Secretary at the Department of Health. Coaching helped Tony understand his internal “operating system” – how his mind works, how assumptions form, and how emotions and beliefs influence leadership behaviour.

Tony also draws on neuroscience and psychology, especially the thinking of Robert Kegan (author of Immunity to Change), to explain that leaders often struggle not because of workload but because of misalignment between their actions and their values. Once he became clear about his core values, he learned how to structure his working life around them.

He explains that when your work aligns with your values, you gain a sense of clarity, speed, energy, and resilience. For Tony, these values include equity, justice, creativity, education, family, community, and autonomy. Because all his roles express the same values, they reinforce each other rather than compete for energy.

Key Leadership Quotes

“Not being normal, being a bit crazy, being on the edge – that’s where change happens.”

“I nearly lost my house. I learned a lot about business the hard way.”

“Coaching felt like a luxury for my mind.”

“I learned how my ‘operating system’ works – and why I think the way I think.”

“If you live according to your values, you can work at speed and scale.”

“When your work aligns with your values, your mind becomes super-efficient.”

“I don’t manage multiple jobs. I live one life in different expressions.”

“Healthcare is actually a very safe system compared to how the City works.”

Leadership Takeaways

  1. Self-awareness is more important than time management

High performance is not about squeezing more hours into the day; it comes from understanding yourself, your motivations, and your mental patterns.

  1. Coaching is not a luxury—it is leadership infrastructure

Access to high-quality coaching enables leaders to reflect, grow, and avoid burnout. It’s not weakness; it’s strategy.

  1. Innovation happens at the edge

Tony’s career shows that progress in healthcare often comes from people willing to cross boundaries between medicine, business, and academia.

  1. Values create energy

When your work reflects your personal values, you gain momentum rather than exhaustion.

  1. Failure is a leadership teacher

Near-collapse in business taught Tony as much as success. Leadership maturity grows through challenge.

  1. Think cross-sector

Understanding how money, governance, and investment work outside healthcare helps leaders build better systems inside healthcare.

  1. Align roles around purpose, not status

Multiple jobs only work if they serve one unifying mission.